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Post by scrambledleggs on Mar 22, 2010 7:33:10 GMT -5
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Post by poppet on Mar 22, 2010 11:30:00 GMT -5
i'm not a locker, but i think he's right... there have been many instances where i even find myself making the mistakes he's touching upon, and sometimes i come across people who say that locking is only a "silly" dance. but it is a dance that requires practice, dedication, and-like he said- conviction, and it's really not getting that right now, from what i've seen anyway...
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Post by cryzko on Mar 22, 2010 13:33:08 GMT -5
most lockers have 1 lazy arm and do lazy points....just saying
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Post by TECHNO on Mar 26, 2010 0:15:40 GMT -5
...This is very informational, Richie Rich is definitly one of the finest lockers out there...although I do disagree on some points.
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Post by scrambledleggs on Mar 26, 2010 7:38:17 GMT -5
what do you disagree on and why?
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Post by RJ (NOT reazon) on Mar 26, 2010 14:53:21 GMT -5
It's kinda difficult to be a Locker around here now-a-days since there's not a big community for it. But, when I do see or meet Lockers (new or old), it really makes me wonder why since there some of the most positive dancers I've met.
I actually like "new school" Lockers. But, I had no idea they might be doing it "wrong". Good video!
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Post by TECHNO on Mar 26, 2010 20:08:46 GMT -5
Well, first off...Im not a battle locker, Id rather lock with you than against you. I believe that locking is a brother/sisterhood dance that lifts everyones spirits up as well as developes comradre amongst us lockers. When my peeps and I get a circle together its all about fun, smile, laughter, alil sillyness and just have a good time in general. When others see you, theres this look on their faces like no other. When you look at any of the original locker footage, you see lots of hands skakes and smiles...you couldn't whipe the smile off of Don Campbells face if you tried. The whole look and dress of a locker in general promotes smiles. Even you yourself Scramble...when you lock I see a bit of sillyness and clown in you. It makes me wanna go out and clown right with you. Im not dissin battle locking nor do I feel as if im some kinda locking king, I just think its a different mind set. Richie Rich is definitly right about foundation. To any of the new lockers, if you dont have the means to go to any of the classes the oldschool lockers give out of state, search for any of the old footage thats out there and study it. Take a look at their flow, funk and execution of the original moves. This is coming from a guy who just loves locking, nothin more, nothin less.
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Post by scrambledleggs on Mar 27, 2010 7:17:30 GMT -5
Respect Techno thanks for replying
Its been a while since I was in Detroit (5 years now!) but I remember you and all the lockers I had met in Michigan. Much respect!
Within the last 5 years Ive definetely researched a lot about this dance during that time, especially the true roots of this dance from a number of OGs and old schoolers
I agree locking brings out the best in a lot of people and it is a positive and uplifting dance and Ill be the first to admit that a few years ago I acted silly in my locking. After having multiple encounters, discussions and classes with Greg (RIP), OG Skeet, Loose Caboose, Peekaboo, Gemini and Richie Rich, I began to look at locking much differently. When you begin to see that this dance really came from the streets and a lot of the original generation of lockers repped with a style that had character BUT ALSO POWER, then it really changes the perspective of the dance. A lot of people even told me that when Don was in clubs, he was extremely intimidating and that he "demanded" attention with his dance, it was that powerful. The problem with the old footage is that they are performances on stage and although the power is there certain aspects are also missing. It took me 5 years to understand this and the researching never ends. It was just announced that Jimmy "Scooby Doo" Foster is indeed alive and well, and hearing his story of the dance will be very interesting because he was one of the strongest lockers from the very beginning
As for the battle aspect to locking, I think it's a good way for dancers to develop their skill in certain areas of the dance. I see battles like challenges, Kung Fu style. If I go against an opponent Im not there to "Fu$% them up" but I want to see what they have to challenge me. Its a positive approach because in the end both of us will walk away with some lessons, whether good or bad
Good start to this discussion, I hope others can join in! I want to see this dance come back and have more people take locking seriously and really develop their craft
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Post by TECHNO on Mar 27, 2010 13:22:35 GMT -5
Thanx much for the responce Scramble. I consider you to be one of the most dedicated locker out there, and It was an honor to jam with you and your crew that day. Ive done alotta research myself just short of actually meeting the originals in person, although I did speak with Greg (RIP) over the internet for a good while a few years back. Greg did speak about the side of locking that was rarely talked about and never aired on TV. He said the dance did get heated sumtimes and that it was serious bidness to be a locker back then. Unfortunatly, never having the chance to really hang out with one of the OGs lockers, we only saw what was on TV...and what we saw was the lockers having a good ole time locking with precise execution of moves, hand shakes, hugs, playing with the crowd, striped socks and big hats.
When I speak about silliness, its not to the point where youre not seroius about the dance by just going out and acting a fool. You definitly want to get out there and represent the dance (as well as you can) as a locker. As a locker I like doing the crazy looks and handshakes, playing with the scarf and twisting my hat. Thats all in locking seriously.
Ive also read that it came from the streets during the early riots and the civil rights movements, which is where alot of the moves came from. Ive read that it was an expression of the brotherhood of those times...and I truely understand that thanx the the web pages of LockerLegends.
On the battle note. I do see your point. I did mention that battling with locking was a diferent mindset. Its the flipside of it that I rarely get into these dayz. I definitly hope to see you and the crew someday soon. Ive been trying to get out to the "Funk For Your Feet" events you guys give, but being a law enforcement officer has its own demands. Hit me up sumtimes man, Ill give you my number. Im also on Facebook.
This is good stuff folk !
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Post by scrambledleggs on Mar 27, 2010 16:08:17 GMT -5
"As a locker I like doing the crazy looks and handshakes, playing with the scarf and twisting my hat. Thats all in locking seriously." All within the context of locking....thats the most important part, well said A good example is Gemini from France, here's a clip of him at a practice in France. You can see he comes out locking hard, but hat turns, blowing kisses, giving yourself five are all done within the locking dance and it looks DOPE! www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr59TUvTheELockerlegends is the best site out there right now for info on locking! Also the lockerlegends forum is a good spot to carry on some other conversations or inquire about other locking questions... www.lockerlegends.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=1&sid=d00fee2be16bba24a2f30e4da9a18f98Techno Im on Facebook too, just look up Scramblelock! Where's Dr Poplock at? Hopefully we can get more peeps talking! |
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Post by TECHNO on Mar 27, 2010 20:03:30 GMT -5
...Yea Gemini is no joke. Ive seen quite a few clips of him gettin down. I gotta get a copy of that movie he made about lockin. I wish that one day he and some of the guys out west can stop thru Detroit and drop some knowledge.
I used to talk to Greg (Dr.Poplock) about once every 2/3 weeks, its been awhile now since I spoke with him. I gonna give him a call now that you mentioned it.
I used to frequent Lockerlegends quite a bit. I didnt know that they re-did the page and added a forum. Ill stop thru there more often now. Thanx homie, Ill hit you up !
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Post by RJ (NOT reazon) on Mar 27, 2010 22:38:20 GMT -5
What exactly makes a "good" Locker?
I have a lot of fun watching Lockers but I honestly don't know as much as I would really like to about it.
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Post by TECHNO on Mar 29, 2010 4:51:31 GMT -5
Well RJ. Knowing the history is a good start to get sound knowlege of the dance. You can do this by hittin up lockerlegends online. About the dance itself...If you cant make it out one of the workshops out west, start out by finding footage of all the Ogs lockers first. Study their execution of moves and each style. Also check out their behavior along side of locking. Study all the funky little extra things they do. Youll notice that they arent just doing/going thru moves. They might do bout 5 lock move, stop to twist the hat, do 3 more move, jump in the air ect. Youll notice that they focus on the "lock" in the dance, thats where the effect comes from. Also check out vids of other lockers to see where theyre coming from with the dance.
You and are gonna have talk awhile because there is sooo much more to what I said. This is just the iceing on the cake. Hit me up and we''ll talk !
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Post by RJ (NOT reazon) on Mar 29, 2010 13:38:53 GMT -5
Yea, I'll be at the Monday practice spot in a couple weeks hopefully! I need to learn more about this!
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Post by TECHNO on Mar 29, 2010 17:05:02 GMT -5
...Sounds cool, lemme know when ur going and Ill see if I can get up there, Dennis and Tay might come too. My car situation sucks right about now so its hard for me to get up there like I used to.
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