kasual
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Post by kasual on Aug 22, 2007 17:41:57 GMT -5
When it comes to people defining other bboy's style. Its one of those undefinable situations because you can't say that someone is wrong about their own self expression. No one is calling a person's self expression innately 'wrong'; they're just clarifying whether their self expression falls into the parameters of breaking or not. That's all. Amplifying it as an attack on a person's innate freedom for self-expression is just convoluted bullshit. There are basics to ballet, standards to salsa, and foundations to breaking. That's all that's being acknowledged, and anyone who fails to manifest their expression -through- these basics is not in a position to call what they are doing breaking. Breaking-inspired/influenced, sure.. but not breaking. Das it. ~ Kas
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Post by floorboy248 on Aug 24, 2007 22:34:16 GMT -5
i dont even know what the elements are... please inform
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Post by Lunchbox Jams on Aug 24, 2007 23:35:16 GMT -5
The elements are knee spin, backspin, dickspin, and chocolate chip cookies. I'm not sure if you're asking for the elements of hip hop or of breakdance.....
If you're talking about the elements of break I have a Tribal (break supportive clothing line) video from 2000 where Poe and Vietnam state the essentials to be toprock, footwork, and freezes. I suppose additional elements of the dance would be power moves, aerials, tricks, tecks, threads, and nestle tollhouse chocolate chip cookies. Ummmmm....if you need definitions: (this is going to blow)
1. You should know what toprock, footwork, and freezes are. 2. Power moves: Gymnastic influenced moves. Flares, windmills, headspins, etc. 3. Aerials: Flips and what have you 4. Tricks: Damnit....technical movements with multiple freezes. Ex: Elbow to airchair to invert while eating nestle tollhouse chocolate chip cookies. 5. Tecks: Not sure....little help please 6. Threads: I think Kid 'n Play used to do this move where you grab your foot with the opposite hand and jump through that man made hoop with the other foot. Ok, so that's a basic thread, hahahaha.....while eating a nestle tollhouse chocolate chip cookie.
Ok so that sucked, but I hope it helped. I'm sure someone else will post up some more info as well.....
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Post by floorboy248 on Aug 25, 2007 11:01:02 GMT -5
oh i know all the moves, i just wasnt clear on the subject... This does not mean I can do all the moves, but i guess i do know all the elements!!!
Thankx Lunchbox!
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Post by Quoi97 on Aug 26, 2007 10:14:49 GMT -5
Tecks is like taking the basics and taking them to a new level like in terms of being creative, changing speeds or directions in your footwork or power, like watch this set...... www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-i_vEk60ioThe elements are knee spin, backspin, dickspin, and chocolate chip cookies. I'm not sure if you're asking for the elements of hip hop or of breakdance..... If you're talking about the elements of break I have a Tribal (break supportive clothing line) video from 2000 where Poe and Vietnam state the essentials to be toprock, footwork, and freezes. I suppose additional elements of the dance would be power moves, aerials, tricks, tecks, threads, and nestle tollhouse chocolate chip cookies. Ummmmm....if you need definitions: (this is going to blow) 1. You should know what toprock, footwork, and freezes are. 2. Power moves: Gymnastic influenced moves. Flares, windmills, headspins, etc. 3. Aerials: Flips and what have you 4. Tricks: Damnit....technical movements with multiple freezes. Ex: Elbow to airchair to invert while eating nestle tollhouse chocolate chip cookies. 5. Tecks: Not sure....little help please 6. Threads: I think Kid 'n Play used to do this move where you grab your foot with the opposite hand and jump through that man made hoop with the other foot. Ok, so that's a basic thread, hahahaha.....while eating a nestle tollhouse chocolate chip cookie. Ok so that sucked, but I hope it helped. I'm sure someone else will post up some more info as well.....
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Post by Banana on Aug 26, 2007 17:27:12 GMT -5
I've always considered anything like this to be the next step in bboying evolution, and on the forefront of originality. www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/arts/dance/12bloo.html?ex=1188273600&en=f086300dddf91712&ei=5070Originality and foundation in bboying is just like painting. You learn the rules so you can break em. I think guys like Domkey, who has clearly evolved beyond the need for 6-step, are the most original. I'm half and half on sticking to your guns. On the one hand, it's cool that you keep doing 'your thing" no matter the current fad. It shows tenacity, it shows fortitude. On the other hand, it also shows a complete inability to evolve. It shows that you're an old dog who really can't learn any new tricks. You're stagnant. This is probably why judging will always be an issue (unless we start standardizing). Which takes priority, which takes emphasis, which is weighted more than the other. In any case, I always remember the #1 rule to judging: There is no such thing as "unbiased".
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Post by cryzko on Aug 26, 2007 22:32:30 GMT -5
that's why i stopped judgin'
i was tired of all the bullshit after the battles and why my standards were what they were...
i judged in the past to help grow the scene...... but now, i see that each dancer needs to judge themselves in order to move on
sure, i can give some tactics on some styles that i do, but all in all, it's a matter of "definition" that tends to make the "foundation"
definition in terms of a "description" of the "foundation"
for instance, try to explain the 6-step or the basic pop to a blind person....... you have to paint the picture for them.... might be hard to physically explain it so you have to rely of self interpretation......
try to dance with a blind fold....or one arm tie to yourself.....or with 1 shoe on......might not feel right for you....but you'll figure it out
cryzko
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Post by Tom on Aug 28, 2007 2:49:37 GMT -5
I've always considered anything like this to be the next step in bboying evolution, and on the forefront of originality. www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/arts/dance/12bloo.html?ex=1188273600&en=f086300dddf91712&ei=5070Originality and foundation in bboying is just like painting. You learn the rules so you can break em. I think guys like Domkey, who has clearly evolved beyond the need for 6-step, are the most original. I'm half and half on sticking to your guns. On the one hand, it's cool that you keep doing 'your thing" no matter the current fad. It shows tenacity, it shows fortitude. On the other hand, it also shows a complete inability to evolve. It shows that you're an old dog who really can't learn any new tricks. You're stagnant. This is probably why judging will always be an issue (unless we start standardizing). Which takes priority, which takes emphasis, which is weighted more than the other. In any case, I always remember the #1 rule to judging: There is no such thing as "unbiased". word word word
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Post by Scotty Pimppen RTC on Aug 28, 2007 9:32:47 GMT -5
create a foundation and build off of it. you don't have to stick to the foundational steps, but you should have them mastered.
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et
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Post by et on Apr 2, 2015 23:22:20 GMT -5
im 100% originole, neva even scene anotha breakdancer. IN. MY. LIFE. EVER. all my mouves r originole konseps bro.
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